Apr 13 2010

When HSUS Comes a-Knockin’

If you’re a dog breeder, we're sure you’ve already heard of the Humane Society of the United States's "animal rescue team." The idea is that in cases where animal abuse is reported, HSUS can send its people to raid private property and "liberate" abused animals. (And, of course, shoot video for fundraising purposes.) Until his recent departure from HSUS, one such team was led by Scotlund Haisley, who was the group's Senior Director of Emergency Services.

(That's him in the Facebook picture at left, kicking in a door with his HSUS garb on. And that was him, featured on HSUS's Twitter feed, until last week when HSUS started circling its wagons and his photo disappeared.)

If anyone knows what became of Mr. Haisley since he was "released" from HSUS, we'd sure like to know. Mainly because he left HSUS in a cloud of controversy stemming from a raid in South Dakota last September. Originally, HSUS teamed up with a local group called Second Chance Rescue to storm the property of a hunting dog breeder on September 2. HSUS seized 172 dogs, issued a press release, and touted the operation as a success.

The breeder was charged with animal cruelty. But Magistrate Court Judge Tami Bern ruled in January that the September search warrant HSUS helped execute was illegal.

Shortly thereafter, the HSUS backpedaling began.

In September, HSUS was bragging that the raid was their fourth one that week, and put out a self-congratulatory press release. But by February, HSUS was acting as if it had nothing to do with it, telling South Dakota's KELO-TV that HSUS “did not have any involvement in the case,” or even in making sure what it was doing was legal.

That seems to contradict testimony from the animal control officer who got the warrant. In January the officer “admitted that the Humane Society of the United States was sitting at the Turner County Fairgrounds ready to take [the breeder's] dogs before she even had a warrant for the raid.” Sounds pretty gung-ho to us.

Here’s how KELO-TV recounts HSUS’s denial:

The Humane Society of the United States was also involved in seizing the dogs from Christensen's property. The HSUS was actually sitting at the Turner County Fairgrounds the day Rosey Quinn of Second Chance Rescue Center went to ask a judge to issue the warrant to raid Dan Christensen's property. …

HSUS told KELOLAND News it was simply asked by Second Chance to help with the removal of Christensen's 172 dogs and did not have any involvement in the case, obtaining the warrant or making sure what they were doing that day was legal. But back in September, they said they were playing a role in the case.

"We're collecting evidence; we're safely and humanely removing them. Some animals may be fractious.  We're providing the animals with all the necessary medical care and the sheltering personnel. Sheltering personnel for 172 dogs is dozens and dozens of people scheduled on a regular daily basis," Scotlund Haisley of the HSUS said on September 3, 2009. 

So HSUS showed up to South Dakota and, according to news reports, waited around while an animal control officer went to get a search warrant.

But they didn’t know anything? Color us skeptical.

Following the raid, Haisley was HSUS's go-to guy for hyped-up, over-the-top accusations:

"[We] found 172 dogs found in absolutely horrible conditions, deplorable, dilapidated buildings living in their own feces and urine, a lot of sharp objects around. On a scale of one to ten, ten being the worst conditions I've seen, this is definitely a nine."

If Haisley was so concerned with the dogs, why didn’t he and HSUS care for them? Less than one week after the raid, KELO-TV reported that HSUS had already packed its bags and left, leaving the local Second Chance Rescue folks to find volunteers to help care for the scores of dogs. (And some of the people fostering those animals are growing impatient.)

Second Chance Rescue's director admits that 28 dogs died in the group’s care following their seizure. And while none of the dogs were sick when they were seized, many became ill after HSUS left town:

A letter from Veterinarian Laura Byl says none of the dogs had the disease, but another document shows at least ten of the dogs contracted the virus while they were in the care of Second Chance Rescue and some got so sick, they died.

So much for Haisley’s September 3 boast that “[w]e're providing the animals with all the necessary medical care and the sheltering personnel.”

We think we can judge a lot about HSUS’s animal rescue team from Scotlund Haisley’s Facebook picture. Is this a mission of mercy, or a bunch of adrenaline junkies playing SWAT? We're not joking: Some HSUS animal rescue team members are even given badges. How is this not a case of impersonating a police officer? (More on that another time.)

It’s hard to believe HSUS gets away with this kind of reckless conduct, but I'm hearing from many, many people who have found themselves on the wrong side of one of these raids. It seems to me that the group is in it for the PR that the raids inevitably generate. They swoop in, raid someone's home, and fly off as fast as they came—often leaving underfunded local rescue groups to clean up their mess.

Maybe—just maybe—Haisley's departure signals a change of tactics. But this isn’t the only case. Stay tuned.

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Posted on 04/13/2010 at 09:36 AM by the HumaneWatch Team

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Any idiot with a make believe badge and a self-imposed sense of cowboy ideology trying to kick in my door had best be prepared for me to mount a defense using the Castle doctrine.

They say the best defense is a good offense—I recently learned about a program that average citizens can take to become “humane officers.” It wasn’t even that expensive.

Taking and passing the class, receiving certification, and being able to flash your own credentials back when someone comes to your door is a great way to shut them up.

Posted by Dannielle Romeo on 04/13 at 11:00 AM

This is the only law in the US where concerned citizens are regularly “deputized”.  Imagine the neighborhood watch group kicking in the door of a suspected drug house.  It would never be legal.

Posted by Todd on 04/13 at 12:25 PM

A few weeks back at a meeting we listened in disbelief as Mr. Christensen shared his story and many of the events leading up to and after the seizure along with what has happened to his dogs, especially those that whelped at the fairgrounds and those that were supposed to be returned to him.  It was heartbreaking and you could tell he was nearly broken from the ordeal.  I would love to see some one interview him and others that witnessed the events and share his story with everyone.

Posted by Deb on 04/13 at 12:54 PM

Kicking in a door like that without being a law enforcement office is a real good way to get shot!

Posted by Mark L on 04/13 at 08:01 PM

“One-hundred-seventy-two dogs on one foul swoop is a big job,” Scotlund Haisley said.

Allow me to snicker for a while over the “foul swoop”.  Very appropriate.

Posted by dobie on 04/13 at 08:49 PM

People like this give “rescue’ a bad name. i do not have facebook, but does he still have the pciture on there.  They should make him remove it. I do animal rescue adn am not abocve the law, not should he be.  Of the picture was staged, it is foolish and if it is real, he broke the law. Did HSUS higher ups not have access to see what his pciture was and did they know his tactics????

Posted by Eunice on 04/13 at 09:12 PM

When Badge meets Badge.. that is what will happen here. ANYONE can take these classes.. if you can filter out the “BS” that you will hear.. I suggest that anyone who can.. does.. not expensive.. and very enlightening.

The Christensen case is very frightening.. those dog looked like they were in good shape.. and to say they were “constantly confined”.. heck they are HUNTING dogs for Petes sake.. my uncle used to carry his bird dogs in the “boot” of his car.. I would have loved to see Scotlund try to take him out..not only was he a huge guy .. hew was a very good shot.. and a state patrolman to “boot.”

Wayne thought Scotlund’s ways were funny.. Scotlund says “I want the scum to think we are the law”.. to which Wayne replied.. “I like his cowboy ways.”

Posted by bestuvall on 04/13 at 09:53 PM

Eunice.. yes they know.. see my comment about Wayne Pacelle ( CEO of the HSUS) liking Scotlund’s “cowboy ways”...I do believe.. correct me if I am wrong.. that the picture of Scotlund breaking down the door was also posted on the HSUS site.

Posted by bestuvall on 04/13 at 09:56 PM

I am an animal control officer and last year participated in a raid with HSUS, Scotland, and the animal rescue team.  I can only speak for this one instance, but there was a search and seizure warrant issued by a judge and served by local law enforcement.  After the warrant was served, HSUS organized the removal of all the animals listed in the warrant.  I doubt that this was always the case with them, though.

Yes, the badges did make me laugh, but Scotlund and his team were incredibly skilled and compassionate dog handlers.  The dogs we removed that day truely did come from terrible conditions and needed the help.

I still think HSUS is basically a scam and Scotlund (and his team) may be the only people I’ve met from HSUS, but I found them to be decent people dedicated to their jobs.  Except for the “in your face” vegan thing, I enjoyed meeting and working with them.

Just my two cents.  I wish Scotlund the best and hopes he finds work away from HSUS.  Maybe then he can learn to enjoy medium-rare steaks.

Posted by Chris on 04/14 at 01:04 AM

I really don’t understand how they are getting away with it.  Do we really have that stupid of law enforcement with so little respect for the law that allows this to occur?

Who’s palm are they stroking OR who are they related to that continues to get this swept under the carpet?

If I did something like that I would be the one swept under the carpet by law enforcement.

This continues to amaze and baffle me.

Posted by Susan on 04/14 at 05:41 AM

According to the self proclaimed incoming director of the South Dakota chapter of HSUS (wonder how long that will last) they have a new pet project neutering street dogs in Bhutan.  Sounds like a good place to send a rebel child to do penance.  But the tie between Second Chance and the HSUS is apparently still there.  This self proclaimed director Darcie Adams works at Second Chance along with the reinstated director Rosey Quinn ( hard to fire the founder I guess)who was in charge of this illegal raid.  Yes even though she lied to a judge she’s not in jail and she is still out there with the potential to do it all over again.But she’s buddies with the State’s attorney and the sheriff.  Maybe that’s what keeps her out of jail.  Turner county commissioners are you listening? But I do wonder where the new office for HSUS will be? Hazard to make a guess?

Posted by Nancy on 04/14 at 07:45 AM

your Uses of the term Cowboy is sickening Cowboys Do what is right, and get a job done while everybody else is still the meeting. This guy is nothing more than a Nazi Thug.

He actually looks like a wimp. Scotlund, try that at my House, But schedule your funeral before you come.

Posted by David W. King on 04/14 at 09:12 AM

Wayne don’t know Jack about “cowboy ways”.

First a cowboy would mind his own business.

Second he would be polite and have some manners.

Posted by Roan Badger on 04/14 at 09:27 AM

Animal “swat” teams are nothing new..in Putnam County Alexander Saunders had 3 horses 2 ponies and his sheep taken from his farm,while he was away on business. The ‘Animal Control Officer’ was also a member of the Putnam Cty Sheriff’s Dept.
Sandy spend a night in jail, paid $5,000 and never got the animals back..this despite the fact that the horses were boarders!!! And the owners didn’t get the horses back either!
This happened two years ago…............in NYS in Putnam County..see NY Times articles for more information

Posted by Mary Verbeck Pomeroy on 04/16 at 03:47 PM

It’s happening all the time.  On 2-6-09, in mid-teen temperature, a NC kennel was raided and 283 nice AKC registered dogs were seized.  HSUS had duped county officials into hiring one of their own as animal control director.  He was even given a dep. sheriff’s badge. 

You know what happen next.  Same old story.  Fairgrounds setup.  So called horrible conditions.
Hyped up in the press.

Several dogs died while in HSUS care.  Dogs were shipped to SPCAs all across the nation and eventually sold (adoption fees) for thousands of dollars.  The breeder didn’t get a dime.  She was shut down and put out of business.

It makes me sick that this true, and that HSUS got away with it..

Posted by C. Bill on 04/16 at 09:32 PM

It’s sickening. The H$U$ even took his grandchildren’s pets! I don’t personally know them, but this has made the news several times in SD. Those dogs were housed in a building, in smaller cages than they were in at home, not seeing the light of day (for real) for MONTHS after being stolen- sorry I mean “seized.” Pictures of the property showed houses, as well as water/food dishes and even toys in the kennels/runs! I feel so badly for his loss of his dogs, his income, and his formerly good and unknown name.

Posted by The farmer's wife on 04/16 at 11:13 PM

Nancy, you’re right in the money.  H$U$ can not act alone in these cases, it takes involvement of law enforcement.  I suspect you have some knowledge of turner county, as do I, and I hope for once the high and mighty in the courthouse will finally be held accountable for settling their grudges with citizens this way.  I am pretty confident this time they will be.  As far as the commissioners, several of them are not seeking re-election.  Wonder why they are delaying dropping the charges against Dan? I think we both can figure that out.

Posted by billybob on 04/18 at 06:25 AM

Nancy, do you know many details on Rosey’s “super-glued cat” publicity and donation stunt?  I only know few details, but I’m sure the others here will be interested(and amused) to hear about it.  I will try to find a link to post here.

Posted by billybob on 04/18 at 07:01 AM

According to Rosie Quinn of Second Chance Rescue the cat was found by a good samaritan glued to the side of the road on I-90 in MN.  The lady brought the cat back to Second Chance an animal rescue located about 35 miles from the MN border inside SD.  The poor cat it was said had been subjected to horrible fear by passing cars zipping by at a close range.  This story stood for awhile and a second installment came out with a reward now for the capture of the person responsible.  The reward got up to $12000 and it made nationwide news through the AP. But a comment was posted on the forums page for KELOLAND the local TV station.  A highway worker from MN who covered that section of I-90 that day NEVER SAW THE CAT. So within a couple of hours of this being made public the story changed.  Now the cat had been found on highway 60.  Things started to look fishy.  The good Samaritan says the date was wrong and that the cat was only sitting on the side of the road and wasn’t glued to the road at all.  (How would you pick up a cat glued to the side of the road anyway and come out of it alive?)  So what happened to the reward money?  Was supposed to be in a separate account and couldn’t be touched. But after an article in the Argus Leader which I am looking at now to make sure I got it right that was written on Jan 20 no mention has been made of the incident or the reward. But it sure came at an opportune time to take the heat off of the Dan Christensen raid. An editorial cartoon came out with Rosie glued to the side of the road with glue running from a can of Dan Christensen dog raid glue. Ya gotta live here to really appreciate it.  But is sure is fishy how often the story changed when the truths started to come out.  No one ever questioned it after this.  It just goes to show how they the activists can get by with so much and we end up paying for it all.

Saturday, Dan got back 5 pups that was all they could find?  One had a severe cherry eye One had an injury and they all came out the front door of second chance rescue in the arms of Rosie Quinn. How long is she going to be allowed to get by with this?  This was abuse as far as I’m concerned and there will be more info coming out as the days go by. He had one supposedly sick puppy they based the raid on and 40 have died since the raid.  Now where is the abuse!

Posted by Nancy on 04/18 at 10:44 PM

Good Morning,
I would like to say a few things to get the story straight here. Second Chance did this rescue and obtained the legal warrant. I asked HSUS to assist in this rescue as to the high amount of dogs.They were asked here to help that is it.

As for returning the puppies after the court ordered it, Mr. Christenson fails to tell you all that he did not want them back and chose to sell them, he also did not follow his part of the court order. You can verify that on the court records it is open to the public. As for taking the “family pet” we didn’t only the breeding dogs.

Darci Williamson-Adams will do a very good job for HSUS and does not work at SCRC. As friends of Darci we respect her taking on this challenage and wish her all the best.

I guess I have a question for all of you who support “Puppy Mills” How do you sleep at night? Ya know being Judge and Jury? You are all going off KELO and Christensen statements.Hey remember he was the one who got his dogs removed?

In closing there are a lot of good decent breeders in this state and there are puppy mills BIG diference.

Posted by RoseySCRC on 04/19 at 10:00 AM

As for the legal warrant-

“The court finds ACO Quinn intentionally misled the issuing court by omitting material information in her affidavits and supplimental testimony.” ... “The omitted evidence was highly probative in determining whether the animals were subject to abuse and neglect at the time of issuance of the warrant.  Clearly, any reasonable person would know the omitted information was the type the issuing court would want to know in determining probable cause.”

As read in court papers filed Feb. 1, 2010. If in fact this breeder subjected his dogs to poor treatment I would be very upset and hope he is prosectuted to the full extent of the law, as I do NOT nor ever have supported puppy mills. I have not really heard anyone from the SCRC respond to any of the allegations against them, and stand corrected if there are untruths being reported on our local news channel regarding the seizure of their family pets. I think maybe if findings in the initial search warrants had been provided to the public and info had not been omitted the perception on this whole case could be completely different

Posted by The farmer's wife on 04/19 at 03:28 PM

shame on you dear rosie….u lied on the stand & u keep on lying in it…....we are united so be sure u watch for us…....we won’t take this anymore…..  sham…..on u .

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/19 at 04:12 PM

The truth will come out during the trial. We at SCRC have been told that we are not speak to the media about the immediate case, and we haven’t. It has not been easy either, I have done many of these mills by myself and I know what I am doing. Please do not believe everything you hear on KELO.
HSUS did nothing here other then what was asked of them…by me. I will do it agian if we get in this situation and the animals need to be saved.

Posted by RoseySCRC on 04/19 at 04:24 PM

If letting that many dogs die is not inhumane what is?  Roasie does not give any preentative shots…did you all know that….breeders have to     it is law…....usda & akc.

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/19 at 04:43 PM

Rosie, the states attorney, and the deputy sheriff were charged with perjury in court and yet they keep going on about their everyday living! AND now Rosie expects the public to believe anything she says and writes.
Word is she initiallly received $75,000.00 in donations (not counting donations of dog food, blankets and toys) and was paid 2 weeks worth of caring and boarding for those dogs by HSUS. What happened to all that money? The five dogs returned on Saturday were full of worms (one of the neglect charges used on Dan Christensen)! One of the dogs was limping from a laceration to its back paw, and one had a cherry eye (very enflamed and infected) which is a very easy surgical procedure to correct, but she chose not to treat it. Eye infection was another issue charged as abuse to Dan. The number of puppies that died in Rosie’s care is yet not known but she is not being abusive or inhumane!!
ONLY in USA can a lynch mob of animal activist come onto your property and destroy someone’s life!
WHO should be having trouble sleeping here??

Posted by Ellie on 04/19 at 05:04 PM

How you can sleep OUTSIDE A JAIL CELL at night is a better question many have.  But seriously, we do welcome you here, and would love to hear your point of view.  This group is just about gaining public awareness about what the HSUS really is, not personal attacks.  Have you had the opportunity to surf this site?  Were you enlightened by any content?  If you disagree with any content perhaps you can enlighten us?  As far as receiving a legal warrant, wasn’t it already deemed illegal by the courts, or are you simply stating what you personally believe(d)?  As far as your statement that the breeder appeared not to want his dogs back, it is my personal opinion that perhaps I would not want them back after they had been exposed to other animals from many origins.  It would take some care under those circumstances to prevent disease outbreaks.  Every person with knowledge of animals knows that.  If the courts determined they were his dogs, did he not indeed have the right to sell them, or at least charge adoption fees and adopt them out?  We all realize the post about ” timothy the cat” may not have viewable to you when you posted, care to comment?  What is your personal opinion of the HSUS?

Posted by billybob on 04/19 at 05:17 PM

Rosey—Care to enlighten us about Timothy the “super-glued” cat while you’re here? You managed to get lots of press for a cat that wasn’t exactly as advertised, didn’t you?

Posted by HumaneWatch on 04/19 at 05:25 PM

I would like to know the H$U$ ‘s definition of puppy mill?  Even the general population who do not support H$U$ use this term, and the definition varies depending on who is using the term.  It varies from any dog breeder….to “commercial” breeder, whatever that means…to number of dogs the breeder has….to conditions at their facilities.  I can imagine it is hard for any dog breeder to defend themself against the claim they are a “puppy mill” when they are uncertain as to a specific person’s definition of the term.

Posted by billybob on 04/19 at 05:43 PM

Timothy was brought here by a couple that had found him froze to the road in Minnesota on Hwy 60. Once he arrived here he was sent to the vet and then in to a foster home with other cats. We did a press release because a gentleman from Yankton had called and offered a 1000.00 dollar reward if the person was found.
Most of the offers of donations were phone calls with people offering IF the person was found. We do press releases like that all the time, not sure why this one went so crazy. Anyhow it was a great story until he fell ill and the vet stated that it was do to all the stress and trauma from what he had been through. The donations we received we offered to return as they were kept seperate.
All we did was to try and help this cat. There will be no more press releases on saving animals for awhile as people are mean anymore that they say things that are not true or factual.It hurts peoples feelings. We are here for the animals.

Posted by RoseySCRC on 04/19 at 05:51 PM

Was it humane not to give parvo inoculations when in your care?

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/19 at 05:59 PM

Really Rosie??? You would go to HSUS for help again??? Really??? Don’t you realize that they are the same org who advertises they are helping pets, but then only 1/2 of ONE percent actually goes to help animals?  I would think being in your field you would know that.  Are you receiving a kick back some where that you would support this org.  Where were they a few days, weeks or even MONTHS after the raid…. that’s right, they had moved on.  They were not around to help.  This group is trying to end Agriculture (21.3 billion industry in SD and #1) and you step up to defend them?  You are not saving animals by laying in bed with them.  You are discrediting yourself and your organization even more.

Posted by Kelly on 04/19 at 06:15 PM

Ya know I love reading this page, and as a person who has taken in and placed many rescue (equines) and who owns and breeds dogs (8 dogs, 1 is a feral rescue,5 of them breed) this has always terrified me.  Locally it seems that breeders (admittedly much bigger than I) and always of small cute breeds, are raided, and always near the holidays.  The day Ill belive HSUS has dogs best interests at heart is the day I see PIT BULLS or GREAT DANES etc.  breeders invaded over the holidays, and of course Ill want to stay tuned to my local news to see the lines of people around the building eagerly willing to $$$$ADOPT these fuzzy cute (not) ” rescued” large or aggressive breeds. I’m a nocturnal person, and though my dogs are always UTD on vaxs and kept clean and happy (and my horses as well) I always have the fear of something like above picture happening and happening at something like 6 am before Ive cleaned up the poopy on the porch and I just see them coming in and saying “You have 5 uncleaned up piles of poop, we found 6 fleas, 8 flies and you haven’t brushed your pastured horses in a week, you are ABUSING THEM.” 

I’m all for them doing their jobs when animals are in horrid conditions or just being manufactured without being given proper care on a mass scale (what I mean by that is that ANYONE that has say… over 5 animals and a soft heart will have probably at least one with some sort of issues, runny eyes, long claws, whatever and that shouldn’t be a problem, then problem are these 100’s of dogs being bred on someones back porch)  but I’m NOT for the way they seem to target the breeders of the “cute and fluffy” and only around the holidays, only to clean them up and turn them around in less than a week or so (how bad off were they really if that’s the turn around time)  and the pictures is a JOKE, what is that, someone who couldn’t make the police force/SWAT TEAM playing wannabe?? I thought AC/HS had to CALL IN LE to do something like that?  Ya know if someone called and said, we want to come see your place in 45 minutes, Id be fine with that.  But Ive also done my homework and learned that you cant be that nice, you have to NOT let them see anything, not say anything and force them to get a warrant while you are calling your atty.  It’s a sad sad state of affairs, when everything seems to be about the bucks and heartbreaking commercials and not about the actual animals or owners.  Ive given $$ to a few rescue groups that I thought were a good cause, only to find out later they too were all about the buck.  And these dogs obviously weren’t cute ‘n fluffy so they ended up with rescue orgs. and got sick!?  UNREAL and SCARY—I dont like ANYONE who thinks they can walk on water without accountability.

Posted by A Hobby Farmer and Dog Breeder on 04/19 at 06:39 PM

If you know what you are doing, then why did all those dogs you had of Dan’s die? Where are they all at? We don’t think you know where they all are….talk about an injustice…. ....dead dogs have to be accounted for by you. Have a great nights sleep—we will.

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/19 at 06:42 PM

Judge and Jury?/ surely you jest.. HSUS and its minions ARE judge and jury to any people they can trash on their website in order to raise MILLIONS of dollars.. they have ruined reputations ( see Mr Pang in Hawaii) and stolen dogs from people by calling themselves not only Judge and Jury.. but SWAT team too.. disgusting thing is that they get away with it…but people are waking up.. HW facebook has over 24,000 members already.. when the truth gets out.. everybody (except the HSUS) wins.. and that is good for pets.. and people..

Posted by bestuvall on 04/19 at 07:19 PM

the last time I read the statute, when he kicks in the door you can shoot. Just make sure he either falls into the house or you drag him inside.

Posted by K on 04/19 at 07:34 PM

Ms. Rosey, seems like the pot callng the kettle black. A lot of dogs died in your care in a very short period of time, what do you call that? You may not be a professional dog breeder but you clearly lack the skills to keep dogs in your care safe, and healthy like so many other over zealous shelters, they want the press and cover up their screw ups. Same story different state seen over and over. You make rescues look bad. As for the owner not wanting the puppies back, what good breeder would? they are carring disease, and the parentage is unknown….. but I sure hope you had to pay him for every puppy and dog you stole that didn’t get returned

BTW some of the people who volunteered have been open about how you really didn’t know how to handle this many dogs…..amazing that animal husbandry is so poor in shelters.

Posted by Humanewatch supporter 101 on 04/19 at 07:37 PM

Scotlund Haisley is now self employed. He is painting and selling his paintings. Some of his paintings are from photo’s of him and his questional entry procedures and animals he seized. At last check the web site was http://www.scotlundhaisley.com

Posted by K on 04/19 at 07:47 PM

Things are hot tonight.  Last week, I posted: “AM I MISSING SOMETHING”?

It has been several weeks since I’ve seen any of those $19.00 a month HSUS fund raising commercials.  The last one had Wayne P. himself making the plea, and I saw it only once.

Are they cutting back? Or, am I missing something?

Posted by C. Bill on 04/19 at 10:09 PM

So Dan didn’t want his dogs back.  Can you blame him?  Any breeder would turn them down.  By definition a shelter or rescue takes in strays and unwanted pets.  Strays come in with no medical history or history of shots.  Many people give up their pets because they cannot afford the vet care including shots or care if they are ill.  Why would anyone bring this into their kennel?  No Dan didn’t have any other dogs to infect but these dogs could have infected his facility and expose any future dogs to any diseases his dogs had been exposed to at the shelter.  Medically speaking it’s not wise.  Everyone knows that.

But what most people don’t know is Turner county has an animal control ordinance.  It’s been on the books since 2003.  But in December the states attorney made some changes .  According to one county commissioner she stated it wasn’t anything important just straightening out some wording that was confusing.  One thing really wasn’t that relevant was the addition of ringtailed cats to the exotic animal list.  But the second was.  It states:

6:01 REQUIREMENTS:  Commercial kennels shall be constructed to the standards of the Animal Welfare Act.  Code of Federal Regulations: Animal and Animal Products 9 C.F.R.Part 3, Sub-part A3.1-3.12   Failure to do may constitute a public nuisance in violation of South Dakota Codified Law, Title 21 Chapter 10 or Turner County ordinance pertaining to public nuisances and subject to remedies and penalties described therein.
The maximum penalty would be 30 days,  a fine of $500 or both.

When this change in the ordinance become public knowledge there were citizens dog breeders and agricultural interests alike at the next county commissioners meeting.  So at the suggestion of one commissioner an ad hoc committee was to be formed to come to a conclusion on what to do with this ordinance. It was an appeasement for those at the meeting.  It was done to buy some time.  3 vets, 1 dog breeder and 5 representing the different agricultural animals raised in Turner county were on the committee.  The meetings drug out at once a month for 3 months until the first part of March.  After much discussion and many hours of individual research done by many on the committee the decision was made to get rid of the ordinance as most counties in SD don’t have an ordinance at all but rely on the SD Codified Laws. 
The following day the proposal was made before the commissioners and the response from the states attorney is she needed to study it more before anything could be done. So it was all for nothing. It’s now the middle of April.
If that ordinance had been repealed Dan could have brought his dogs home.  But he wasn’t as stupid as they had hoped for and he said no. He couldn’t bring them home with the existing ordinance that had been revised in December upon the advice of the states attorney. The bills kept growing for the care of the dogs at $8 per day per dog. The states attorney has been dragging her feet for an appeal for the illegal warrant. 
And you wonder why he wouldn’t take them home   Rosey?
As for me I sleep fine .  better than you.  But then I don’t need to have my own personal lawyer either.

Posted by Nancy on 04/19 at 10:34 PM

Good Morning Rosie, did you sleep well?

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/20 at 08:38 AM

How can you justify $400000.00 for dead dogs.  Dan was served with a bill yesterday from Rosie…...... Are you nuts?

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/20 at 08:41 AM

I love how Rosey SCRC comes on here spouting off how they did the raid and they obtained the “legal” search warrant.  REALLY?  Why was the search warrant deemed illegal after it was found out she lied to court officials to get it?  How she is not facing perjury charges in Turner county is beyond me.

More on this story: Rosey Quinn is also trying to charge Mr. Christianson $400,000 for the care of the dogs she illegally took from him.  I love how she basicly steals the dogs and then expects the rightful owner of them to pay her an excessive amount to take care of them.

Posted by AntiRosey on 04/20 at 10:45 AM

It is interesting to note that we should now not listen to anything KELO has to say.  It was all fine and good when KELO was on your side and did all their bleeding heart stories just in time to save you when you were a little strapped for cash. Second Chance Rescue and HSUS are nothing but bullies.

Posted by Lisa on 04/20 at 11:29 AM

Rosey, fact is more dogs have died in your care then in Dan’s.  Fact is you have dogs that have suffered to their deaths with Parvo, something not found on the farm.  Fact is you have dogs in confinement at this very moment, where at the previous location they had more room to roam! 
  I hope you have fun paying you fines, and serving you jail sentence, because you have cost Turner County a lot of money, and have ruined the lives of people, and killed dogs.
  Yeah and how about those pups you gave back!  Wow what excellent care you gave them.
  Pathetic!  I think Turner County should bring charges against you for animal neglect….... you obviously don’t now how to care for dogs without letting them get sick and die.

Posted by Adam on 04/20 at 01:53 PM

Thanks again Nancy! I was just going to ask about the attempted ordinance.  Did Davis flood because of the sweat pouring out of the turner county courthouse?  I, for one, hope the real fireworks are yet to come.

Posted by billybob on 04/20 at 03:18 PM

Let Me See ,  wow…...you have the nerve to charge this man for his dogs when many are dead…...something wrong with this pic…Well we the people…..did you hire a good lawyer due to the fact you lied & are trying to get out of it…. will see you in court….all eyes on ya.

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/20 at 03:22 PM

Rosey, you obtained the legal warrant-AFTER you were in front of the judge for the 3rd time which was later determined that you did not tell the truth.  You said the HSUS was there to assist you-they were waiting at the Turner Co fairgrounds until you got the warrant and then they ran the show-setting up the ID table, directing which building to go into and of course videoing the whole event with cuts to make sure they said the right thing.  So who exactly was in charge?  I think it has been proven thoughout these posts why Dan did not take back the puppies that were awarded to him-the ones born after the raid-PARVO comes to mind!  He chose to sell them-gosh isn’t that what you do-adoption for a fee?  Darci Adams the incoming new director for HSUS is your friend and a volunteer at SCRC…humm is her office located in your building?  Sleep well at night, well we don’t ruin peoples lives; the lady in Dimmock, the lady whose daughter that had a prize rodeo horse that you determined needed to be put down even though it had a attending vet and he was there to tell you that-oh yeah you had your gun on then even though you said in court that you had never carried a weapon-that either he put it down or you would.  What about the guy whose wife had recently passed away and you came and took his pets because they were not on concrete.  You removed Dan’s dogs after coming on his place and telling him he had nothing to worry about from you.

Living the dogs life

Posted by Living the dogs life on 04/20 at 07:24 PM

so you said in print that the cat was not glued but was frozen? 

1.    Truth cloudy in tale of glued cat
John Hult; Argus Leader; Jan 20, 2010; pg. n/a; 
2.    Cat glued to road dies from complications
Argus Leader; Dec 25, 2009; pg. n/a; 
3.    Second Chance hopes for renewal
John Hult; Argus Leader; Feb 7, 2010; pg. n/a; 
4.    Reward offered in abused cat case
Argus Leader; Jan 12, 2010; pg. n/a; 
5.    Cat dies after being glued to Interstate 90
Argus Leader; Dec 26, 2009; pg. n/a; 
6.    Quinn quits at animal shelter
Jay Kirschenmann; Argus Leader; Feb 1, 2010; pg. n/a; 
7.    Reward offered for information about abused cat
Argus Leader; Jan 12, 2010; pg. n/a; 


Gotcha!  You lied and it is in print for all to see.

Posted by Nancy on 04/20 at 08:03 PM

You returned 5 pups from over 200 (your number) that were born on Saturday April 17, 2010….5 + 59 (that were sold)= 64-where are the rest?  Did that many die under your supervision?  Of the 5 you returned, 1 had a open wound on it’s paw, one had an inflamed cherry eye(that is not an eye infection) and they all had worms! You said that the one with the “eye infection” had been seen by a vet-were there any care instructions or meds to go the with the pup?  You did not produce a whelp date or sire and dam or any shot records.  These “problems”  are in your words, probable cause to believe and do believe that there are dogs and puppies which are being neglected located on the premises-SECOND CHANCE RESCUE CENTER.
Tell us what a decent breeder is in the state.  It is it the one who is USDA?  The number of dogs in the kennel?  If they live in your home?  What do you think is a decent breeder?  You tried to raid a USDA breeder in Turner Co because it was your professional opinion that in these situations it is very unlikely that out of a breeding situation that 1 puppy would be in this deplorable conditions because a vet report and the puppies buyer which indicate to you that this puppy was living in filthy conditions.  You had probable cause to belive and do believe that there are dogs and puppies which are being neglected on the premises described herein….SCRC should be check on.  A cop came out to you and saw your spread sheet and thought it looked fine; did he go out to your metal building and look at the dogs housed there that are Dan’s?  You think you are untouchable and above the law; but again using your words, the truth will come out.

Living the dogs life

Posted by Living the dogs life on 04/20 at 08:12 PM

WOW!
Looks like a lot of people don’t believe you Rosie. HHHMMMM…...I wonder why? I see by SCRC 2008 income tax return that they paid you over $100,000.00 in wages and that does not include reimbursments! Pretty good wages for doing a Public Service.

Now tell me it is all for the animals and you are not in it for the money. I don’t know about the rest of you breeders but I have never made $100,000.00 in puppy sales!

Posted by WOW on 04/20 at 11:38 PM

How much of the money for the cat donations did you keep?  Rosie where are you   .....still in bed from loss of sleep I would guess

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/21 at 07:57 AM

The normal treatment for a cherry eye in a puppy is to be surgically treated… why was this not done?  Ask any breeder they know….why does not second chance rescue not know ...or do they…...talk about injustice to that puppy….....better study up girl….......

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/21 at 11:11 AM

WOW is right…......pretty darn good money..for someone who destroys lives…... .

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/21 at 12:15 PM

Wonder if the public is aware of her wages.

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/21 at 12:16 PM

Okay..moving right along….You do know that this has happened in New York State? Putnam County to be exact. The farmer, Alexander Saunders who I mentioned before, he paid $$$$$ but never saw the animals again. AND a dog breeder, who was not home, had her home invaded and her Yorkies taken. She was also fined heavily.

AND the Basset Kennel near Philadelphia,PA that got raided a year or so ago—-Two of the elder bitches were spayed and died IN THE SHELTER.

These ‘self-appointed’ animal cops are all over. Watch out.

Posted by Mary Verbeck Pomeroy on 04/21 at 12:53 PM

I read an article about pups being taken by rescues just before Christmas.  What timing! In this case what better time to steal bird dogs than 6 weeks before pheasant season starts in SD.  The demand is way up then and if you were to ask Dan that’s probably when he sold the most puppies in past years.  Only problem is that Rosey didn’t get to keep them. How fast do you suppose she would have had them sold if she had had no interference?  Dan fought back and they didn’t plan on that.

Posted by Nancy on 04/21 at 01:20 PM

Great point Mary.  I think the postings, (and hers), have given everyone here a good picture of Rosey.  We all realize that, unfortunately, not all rescues are in things for the right reasons.  Am I way off base here, or do others here agree law enforcement plays a role in these “raids” all over the country?  I believe all (except one), of those posting here have already been educated about the H$U$ , but what about the role law enforcement plays in assisting them in their pursuits?  And perhaps for reasons other then animal care?

Posted by billybob on 04/21 at 02:05 PM

I know for a fact Rosey makes far less than $30,000 per year. For those of us who TRULY love animals, we support our local shelters knowing that all are doing it for the right reasons—which is to get rid of you self centered breeding, hoarding, money grabbing bastards. The fact that breeders and followers of HumaneWatch think Second Chance made any money from this last rescue is unbelievable. Feeding and caring for an extra 200 plus dogs is not cheap, and yes we did vaccinate them!! even provided vet care “SUPRISE”
Good breeders are in it to improve breed standards, keep the quality in the breed, actually hardly profiting at all considering their money is put back into the care of their pets. Half of the dogs removed were mixes, and over bred. Is that fair to the pet? Before you go bashing Second Chance and Rosey know your facts.

Posted by Val on 04/21 at 03:58 PM

So Val—are you the Valerie who is Director of Adoption Program and Agency Operations for Second Chance?

Posted by Louise on 04/21 at 04:55 PM

So Rosie truly loves animals? It is just the human race she hates?

“get rid of you self centered breeding, hoarding, money grabbing bastards”

WOW - Those are pretty harsh words, coming from such good hearted caring people!!

Like Rosie said, the truth will come out in court and then everyone will know the facts. Rosie and her “Nazi” HSUS friends come storming in and play judge and jury in one swipe! Their day will come! So - you just forgot to vaccinate all those puppies that died of parvo or get vet care for the dog with the infected cherry eye. Maybe she didn’t care because she knew she was going to have to give it back to Dan.

Posted by skeptical on 04/21 at 05:18 PM

Val-  I think many here are just outraged be the ~$400,000 bill sent to Dan, and lien now put against him (not sure if the lien is correct, just read that here).  I personally don’t believe that Rosey, or SCRS came up with that number without some local assistance.  Val, that amount of $, no matter how and who calculated it, is extremely excessive.  Do you know how that $ amount was calculated?  I do agree with you Val, these dog breeders should only breed animals with no genetic defects, or abnormalities, but you’re not suggesting the breeding of two separate breeds, either accidental or intentional (as with this case) is abuse?  As for “money grabbing bastards”, please wait until someone here has attacked you personally, then by all means go ahead.  Please surf this website, and feel free to enter into any dissgussion regarding anything you feel is inaccurate.  We really do welcome you opinion here!

Posted by billybob on 04/21 at 05:36 PM

Just for my own knowledge, which case was Rosey, and others now, referring to?  Dan’s possible civil case?

Posted by billybob on 04/21 at 05:43 PM

Wow now we know you do hate breeders…calling us bastards is opening you up to a lawsuit….wow. Stooping pretty low there….not a good thing.

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/21 at 05:53 PM

Val,
Well I must be one of those “self-centered breeding, hoarding, monkey grabbing bastards”...WOW would your mom be proud of you right now!  If you are feeling overwhelmed by “things” welcome to the world of dog breeders.  You are quick to condemn yet where is your love of the animals if circumstances just need to be corrected?  If SCRC did give vaccinations did they do the “WHOLE” protocol - giving additional vaccines 2 weeks later?  Why would Rosey return a dog with a visible problem?  This dog could have easily gone into the “freezer” as decease.  Are you a paid employee of SCRC or do you have enough money to live without any pay?  The winter was pretty long, did you scoop any kennels or do you at SCRC have the inmates do that for the 30 cents an hour you pay them?  I do love animals or else I would not base my whole life on them….I do think that you do to, but to put your faith in someone who has destroyed so many lives I ask you why-Rosey has been proven to be a lair…watch your back because if she gets in any more trouble, you might be liable.

Posted by Living the dogs life on 04/21 at 08:59 PM

” but what about the role law enforcement plays in assisting them in their pursuits”


In SD the law states the animal control officer has to have a search warrant and be accompanied by local law enforcement and a state certified vet. At the raid someone asked the deputy sheriff to do something and his comment was;“ I can’t it is out of my control”. Rosie makes them believe she is the ultimate law and has the final say so. But I have heard (per one of the hearings) that Rosie was not a certified animal control officer because she hadn’t been sworn in by a judge in the 3 yr. time frame that is required to stay current as an ACO. I think that is why the search warrant was ruled illegal and thrown out. I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong. But if you are insinuating the law enforcement stood ideally by because they wanted to get Dan for some reason? I don’t believe so. Rosie had been to another kennel previously with a warrant on a lame complaint and left empty handed as she couldn’t find a reason to take their dogs! She has even more recently taken a dog from a mentally challenged man (from the same county) that took his dog to the groomer on advisement from friends. The groomer called it in because the collar was too tight on the dog. LETS not educate here - just take his only companion from him and leaving him broken hearted wondering why.  I could go on and on about past raids and animals she took and the used of the media to dramatize and get donations. She was fired years back from the human society of SF because of her over zealous ways and another botched up raid that made the Humane Society look bad. Rosie has quite a track record and those people she has abused in the past are ready to tell their stories!  Which I am sure will happen when this trial is all done.

Posted by Skeptical on 04/21 at 09:11 PM

I am appalled at not only Rosey Quinn, but many others just like her who call them self “law officers”. I thought a “law officer” of any kind had to go to specialized schooling and training which takes several weeks if not months. So Rosie, how much training did you get that you can go around toting a badge and telling people you represent the “law of the United States of America” ? I could have a badge just like yours if I gathered up a couple of buddies and spent a few hours “in training”.
Another thing, you impose all these rules and regulations on kennel operators, but you don’t follow them yourself. Why is that? You steal animals away from their owners for a sore eye (such as the lady in Hutchinson county) and for bad teeth or worms, but your animals in your facility have the exact same thing. Not only that, but why don’t you have to keep records and vaccinate like breeders do? I really think you need to be raided and all the animals in your facility be taken away from you and you arrested for animal cruelty. That is really only fair, isn’t it?  Shocking truth, huh?

Posted by Beans on 04/21 at 09:21 PM

Just for Val: I have never owned a breeding dog, I am not a money grubbing explicit word and I have 2 sterilized dogs from winning show dogs in conformation agility and obedience. Not quite a hoard. On a different note; this is happening all over the United States! What we really need to do is put our minds (and typing fingers) to work and write editorials, inform the 80 yr old widow next door and take down these self-righteous groups. All the frustration we have vented on this post- 60 odd comments at last check could make one heck of an impression on daily newspaper readers :0)

Posted by The farmer's wife on 04/21 at 10:35 PM

Skeptical- I really wasn’t necessarily talking specifically about the “dan vs. Rosey” incident.  The lady from NY stated how these things like this had happened there also.  My point is, the HSUS does not roll into town and go directly to a farm and do a “raid”.  There is always someone locally that contributes.  In the case of the mentally challenged person you speak of, I’m assuming a search warrant was involved?  If you feel that seizure was wrong, was Rosey the only person at fault?  Ok, to sum things up, don’t you feel everyone that could be involved in these “raids” should be educated about this issue.

Posted by billybob on 04/22 at 10:39 AM

Whomever called us Bastards is not a nice person. This is downright indecent.

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/22 at 11:51 AM

Attention livestock producers! Did you notice Val said breeders?  Not dog breeders.  If this isn’t the sign of an animal rights activist I don’t know what is.

They are after anyone who raises any kind of living animal Dog breeders are just the first step.

PS. do you know why all rescues and shelters are not for profit?  You have to take care of your animals to make a profit.

Posted by Louise on 04/22 at 12:07 PM

my friend got a puppy from you & it died 3 days later…from parvo….....this was long before the dan raid…

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/22 at 12:38 PM

Education….......
Absolutely! Everyone involved could use education from the Rescue to the Breeder to the man who got his pet taken away. USDA has yearly educational seminars for their breeders and members of breeder organizations do too. Some of us breeders hit as many as 3 or more a year. We always learn something new and valuable, even those of us who have been doing it for 20 plus years. They call us money hungry! We are just trying to supplement our income and do something we love to do. Most breeders are passionate and love their animals, but some may not have it all up to snuff! Breeders and pet owners should get the chance to correct and improve their infractions, and then if they don’t comply - then absolutely deal with it. We don’t want to see abused and unhappy animals in anyone’s kennels. The general public doesn’t understand a dog’s life in a kennel; they are not unhappy or depressed it’s just a different living environment then the spoiled house dog. That spoiled house dog probably goes through more depression or separation anxiety because they are stuck in an empty house all day while their owner leaves them for work or what ever takes them away from home. I have spoiled house dogs too!
The state sales tax people have been hitting kennels in SD for several years now and very aggressively. In most incidences the breeder is selling through a broker or out of state. But if they sell $400.00 or more in state they are required to pay sales tax. If I recall that is what started it all at Dan’s facility, which was the initial reason they came to his place, it ballooned after that. The breeders are not trying to cheat the state most just don’t realize they have to pay sales tax because they run under their farming operations.
We shouldn’t have to constantly defend ourselves because we choose have purebred dog verses a cross breed dog from a rescue – nor should those who own a pure bred dog as a pet.  The rescues would like you to think it is the kennels overcrowding their facilities. And yes that is the case with some rescues because they go to the dog auctions buy them as cheap as they can, then say they rescued them with a horror story attached!
Don’t tell me the rescues are not in it for the money, they are making more then most of us breeders who are struggling to make ends meet. But I will be a breeder till I am no longer physically able too. My dogs bring me more pleasure and joy then any job I have ever worked at! 
The mentally challenged man - No there wasn’t a search warrant, he took his dog to the groomer - the groomer called Rosie. All he needed was some Education - he took the dog to the groomer because he was advised to do so by his social worker, I believe. He is capable of learning how to care for his dog, he just needed more instruction!
He works at a small town cafe and the community people adore him and help look after him.

Posted by skeptical on 04/22 at 01:52 PM

Skeptical- Believe me, we are on the same page,exactly.  I think I know the man you’re speaking of, and that is very, very sad.  He Is a huge asset to the community, works his butt off, and brings a smile to everyone’s face.  VERY capable of caring for a dog, and grooming, once trained.  I wish everyone here could meet him, they would be as outraged as I am.  I can imagine his heartbreak, he is such a caring and loving sole.  I hope his voice is heard.  COMPLETELY disgusted by Rosey now.  Thanks for sharing that.

Posted by billybob on 04/22 at 05:48 PM

So much for social workers.  She was heard to say that this man had no right having a dog that he couldn’t care for it.  He missed two days of work He was devastated.  He lost his best friend. 
So what did he do.  He wanted to get his dog groomed.  So his social worker said to take it to Lennox.  When he got there the groomer thought the collar was too tight.  On this basis and this alone SHE CALLED ROSEY.  Lesson learned DO NOT TAKE YOUR DOGS TO LENNOX TO THE GROOMER.  You would most likely be looking for trouble.  Lesson 2 If rescues have any love at all for animals ( and I question this)  they have no understanding of the bond between a human and their pet and they have no love for humans.

Posted by Uncle Jessie on 04/22 at 08:00 PM

Where did Rosie get $400,000.oo to take care of that many dogs….

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/23 at 09:54 AM

Especially when the food and the labor are donated.  We may all be in the wrong business but at least I sleep at night. Rosey, did you sleep will the night you took that poor fellow’s dog away?  If you did then you need help.

Posted by Uncle Jessie on 04/23 at 10:53 AM

For those of you who are reading this from SD we need to get in action. With all the laws broken and nothing done we as citizens need to band together.  SO if you have had a run in with Rosey Quinn be it a dog or cat that came sick from Second Chance or if you have been subjected to her bullying tactics, gather your info together.  Write down any and all details you remember and if you have documentation that is very important.  Contact your legislators.  We don’t seem to be solving this at the local level.  It’s time we involved the state to the point that they can not ignore this anymore.

Posted by Uncle Jessie on 04/24 at 09:32 AM

Rosey,
Just thinking that if you are awarded the $415,000.00, what would you do-pay the foster homes for their expenses?

Posted by Living the dogs life on 04/25 at 08:21 AM

In speaking with our attorney I have been advised to request that my name and Center be taken off this site, I am also requesting that my name not be mentioned in your “malisha crime conversations”. You breeders would just love to see no laws or regulations on the poor breeding facilities in this state.

You are all so ignorant that you do not even see that the puppy mills in this state make you decent breeders look bad.

Agian please stop all discussions on myself and Second Chance or we will have no choice but to report this site to the FCC.

Thank You.

Posted by Roseyscrc on 04/26 at 10:34 AM

I thought you said there are some good breeders in this state…We are inspected by USDA & AKC.

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/26 at 12:36 PM

Dear Ms. Quinn—

I don’t think you or your attorney has the power to circumvent the First Amendment, so my guess is that your demand that everyone stop discussing you and your organization will fall on deaf ears. Just a hunch.

I’m not sure what a “malisha crime conversation.” If you’re trying to refer to discussion that is “malicious,” I invite you and/or your lawyer to call me (you have my office number, judging from my voicemail) and specify if anything on this page referring to you is libelous.

I take these issues very seriously, but I tend to ignore people who simply want to squelch open discussion and discourage free inquiry.

You seem perfectly able to defend yourself, and your comments are just as welcome as anyone else’s. But if you decide not to go on the record about certain things in advance of a court date, that’s your decision. Please don’t expect everyone else to stay mum about what stirs their passions.

As far as the FCC goes, bring ‘em on. I doubt they’ll agree with you.

Posted by HumaneWatch on 04/26 at 12:37 PM

WOW again!
LOL!  What’s the matter Rosie are you getting worried?? Did you spout off too much yourself!
Maybe when the facts on this page that incriminate you are too close to accurate and now you are sweating a little. The more you say the more comments will come in response - even a 4 yr old can figure that one out. SO Bring it on!
Good luck to DAN at his hearing tomorrow!
Keep posted for more after tomorrow everyone - I am sure there will be some interesting reading! :D

Posted by WOW on 04/26 at 12:55 PM

She did not wear any protective garments when she took his dogs. That is the #1 thing an animal control officer is trained to do. I oughtta know, been there done that.

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/26 at 02:41 PM

Do you think we would not take care of our dogs? We attend all kinds of training & keep updated on everything we can…some of us even go to classes like you, so we know what you are doing wrong.

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/26 at 03:17 PM

A touching post on the HSUS site from Rosey Quinn:

Rosey Quinn, executive director of Second Chance Rescue, who called in The HSUS to assist with the rescue of more than 170 dogs from a South Dakota puppy mill
“All seems to be going well here, but we all miss you guys so much and it was such a pleasure working with you. You all made a big hit here—we couldn’t have done it without you. Watch the mail, I am sending some CDs to you. One is a special picture montage of the day of our rescue made just for you guys. Thanks again.”

Isn’t that just so sweet!

Posted by Ellie on 04/26 at 04:41 PM

Rosey,
Did you turn in your picture montage of the day of the rescue to the courts for evidence? Anyone can correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that anything collected the day of the raid (including pictures) is evidence and if you are distributing it to anyone else that could be illegal too.

Posted by ellie on 04/26 at 05:10 PM

Uncle Jesse-  you’re exactly right in my opinion.  Why wasn’t Rosey held accountable for previous questionable acts? To spend all our time on Rosey is only somewhat productive; I think there are others to hold accountable.  Even if Rosey is held accountable, this issue will keep arising, only next time it will be another person.  I feel like this case is well deserving of the attention it has received here.  Rosey may not be in any way attached to the H$U$ , but my opinion is that unless local conditions are not changed, they may well get a foothold here.  I personally don’t want SD to be the new Hollywood for AR propaganda films.  I feel the days of “good ‘ole boy” local politics and policy should be over, it is 2010

Posted by billybob on 04/26 at 05:58 PM

Rosy,

I don’t know who your attorney is, but evidently he doesn’t know much about the 1st Amendment or freedom of speech. But isn’t this just like you to try to strong-arm someone when you start feeling a little pressure?

I find it hilarious how you used to baby up to the camera at KELO until your lies about the cat glued to the interstate started to surface, and now you tell us not to believe a word they report about you.

I guess you must be feeling a little pressure finally from people pushing back.

FYI, I fall into none of the classes that you rant and rave about. I am just a local person who is tired of you pushing people around, bending the law to your favor, and ruining people’s lives just because you think someone can’t raise a pet right. And I think I speak for the most people in South Dakota.

Posted by AntiRosy on 04/26 at 07:34 PM

I recently heard about this site and I really am saddened by the hate and discontent I see. You people are really bitter and hateful about things that you know nothing about. First off, if you are into making money, rescueing animals is not the place to be. You are basing all your ramblings on rumors and the media. Who designated you judge and jury? Thank you for worrying about our income and how we sleep at night. Apparently you stay awake figuring out ways to destroy reputations because you have nothing better to do. If you are all gonna bring issues that you have had with Rosey then maybe you should invite people that have had issues with DC, oh and how about the people that have been helped by Rosey and her organization?  So much negativity! If you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem. If any of your accusations are true it will be decided by the courts. Not you. Until then maybe you should try some yoga or other relaxation techniques to calm all the rage you feel for something you know nothing about instead of blowing off on a site that is claiming to do some good. Nothing good can come out of the ramblings of people that are NEGATIVE! You should all find something positive to do for animals instead of sitting at your PC bitching about what other people are doing. There are plenty of causes that could use help, not complaining. If you have nothing good to say then you are the problem and what is wrong with this whole country. Get some sleep and try to do something good with all that energy you have pent up. Especially those of you whose name comes up every other paragraph.

Posted by Stormy on 04/26 at 07:45 PM

Rosey has also been in discussion about this case on the HSUS site, as well as the HSUS and “Stop Humane Watch” facebook pages.  Maybe those sites will grant her request, but I know many have been tracking those comments, and have them saved.  Maybe the attorneys involved would also be interested in those comments as well.

Posted by billybob on 04/26 at 11:22 PM

I have to agree with this statement somebody made here:  “The good breeders don’t even realize how bad the bad breeders make them appear” or something on that order.
I wish the good breeders would get on board to stop the backyard breeders and puppy mills.
Just because someone is USDA licensed and has AKC dogs doesn’t insure good puppies or care.  Every puppy mill who sells to my local pet store is USDA licensed and inspected.
Kathy Bauck: check her out and see what the USDA did to her and what she was doing to her dogs.  This is where you good breeders need to take a stand, in my humble opinion.

Posted by ResponsiBill on 04/26 at 11:46 PM

They are you out there today reading this, or are you in court in Parker?

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/27 at 02:42 PM

@Stormy: I’m sure you aren’t suggesting that all people posting do nothing to help animals, as some just choose not to flaunt the fact that they are “a part of the solution” helping in reputable shelters etc. It’s called humility. Also, what do you view as the problem and solution? My problem is an abuse of power aided by the HSUS. The solution? Educate rescuers to be thorough with their investigations, educate owners before raiding and involve the public when their donations are going towards causes they didn’t even know they were supporting. Anger and frustration is to be expected when someone’s rights are violated, or have been threatened. It’s a slippery slope from animal rights laws to don’t eat meat, it’s illegal now, or you’re getting your dog taken b/c i didn’t see food outside (even if it wasn’t feeding time) to don’t walk on sidewalks in the summer b/c you might squish an ant and that is cruelty. Seems crazy now, but just wait!

Posted by The farmer's wife on 04/27 at 03:10 PM

Today we will know more as She is in a hearing in Parkston. Let’s hope for the best for us. She is one unethical humane officer, and I will be speaking to Animal control headquarters about her ethics.

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/27 at 03:29 PM

It was in Parker not Parkston and there is no such thing as Animal Control Headquarters LOL

Posted by Stormy on 04/27 at 05:10 PM

Responsibill- you are involved in the pet industry first hand and are using the term “puppy mill”?  Only thing I can figure that makes any sense is if your “store” is a shelter, maybe even SCRC?  Otherwise your use of the term is just harming yourself.

Posted by billybob on 04/27 at 08:25 PM

Today I thought, for entertainment, I would view some videos on HSUS’s “channel” on youtube.  I encountered one titled ” Four puppymills, Four states, Four days”, or something similar.  They include footage from the raid in question, but yet deny involvement?

Posted by billybob on 04/27 at 11:46 PM

We spend all this time talking about poor kennels and how the good breeders should turn them in and weed them out.  But what about the bad rescues or shelters?  They do exist.  What are the shelters and rescues doing to police their own? 
As for Stormy as the old saying goes.  Do not judge me until you walk a mile in my shoes.  If you do not live under Rosey’s shadow then you do not have a full understanding of all that is going on.

Posted by Uncle Jessie on 04/28 at 10:29 AM

OH but there is animal control headquarters…...bet me…...also about walking in your shoes..if this is your attitude…would not want to walk in them…

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/28 at 10:42 AM

Rescues & shelters should be inspected like we are…..without notice like we are….....we will have to check this out & maybe go to the legistlaters with this….hmmmm…....

Posted by the truckers wife on 04/28 at 10:45 AM

Hey billybob—there is an election on June 8 for sheriff and we are going to do all we can to get the “reigning” sheriff out.

Posted by Uncle Jessie on 05/01 at 08:55 PM

I hear ‘ya.  Registered already and hoping that happens.

Posted by billybob on 05/02 at 03:41 PM

For all of you that are from Turner county get the word out.  there will be a debate between our existing sheriff and Mat wetterling in viborg as of now they are saying May 20 get the word out so we can show support for Mat in huge numbers.  sure hope they take questions from the audience or that you can submit questions before hand.  got a few I would like to see answered.

Posted by Uncle Jessie on 05/04 at 12:45 PM

I have some good news about the mentally challenged man at Hurley! A friend of mine saw him at the vets office with his dog. She asked him about getting his dog back. He said “The nice lady from SCRC brought him back to me and said they should have never took him away!” “But that BIG mean lady who took him from my car said I shouldn’t have a dog!” “The nice lady told me I needed to get him a new collar, so I have to get a new collar.”
Applause to the nice lady at SCRC she should stand up and take credit for her humanity!

Posted by Ellie on 05/04 at 11:20 PM

Where at uncle jesse?  Over a ...pork chop dinner this noon….I overheard someone saying something about this.  Any details?  Where can we get yardsigns?  Does Matt have a facebook page?  I know his opposition does.  Keep me posted.

Posted by billybob on 05/04 at 11:49 PM

for the latest go to
http://www.argusleader.com/article/20100504/UPDATES/100504080/-1/updates
Dan stated this was all done under the direction of the Turner county sheriff
billybob,as for the yard signs and more about the debate will let you know when I know

Posted by Uncle Jessie on 05/05 at 12:40 PM

billybob,
Mat is all out of yard signs but there will be a meet and greet at the viborg Cafe next Tuesday the 11th at 9 am get the word out.  this is the first step to getting this all straightened out in Turner county.
A big thank you to Humane watch This is the only way I have to communicate wtih billybob and anyone else out there tired of the present Good Ole Boys law enforcement we have here in Turner county.  we will have honest and EQUAL law enforcement again.

Posted by Uncle Jessie on 05/07 at 10:26 AM

The BIG lady is losing her power here….u guys in turner county go for it.  If you need some donations let us know where to send them to help with this.

Posted by the truckers wife on 05/07 at 05:42 PM

Uncle jesse- thanks so much!  You will see me there on tuesday. Hopefully we can meet and not have to continue to hijack this board (sorry david), and can discuss this all further. Matt has told me he has an election page on FB, but for the life of me I can’t find it.  I want to also say something here about myself and uncle jesse’s conversation as of late on here.  Yes, this site is, and should be about the HSUS.  However, I will say this just one last time. The HSUS does not just roll into town from florida or where ever their “raid headquarters” are.  There HAS to always be someone locally involved. As many have stated in the first part of our discussion here, some may have used the castle doctrine, and rightfully so if the HSUS were not escorted by LE.  My personal opinion is that most often the HSUS uses LE as a tool, and in this case were a bit overly-excited and did not take the time to check on the legality of their actions.  I hope all involved are held accountable. But, I believe maybe at times LE uses the HSUS, and local “mini-HSUS-like” as tools also.  We should educate everyone about there factory-fundraising techniques, and use of funds, and we all thank you David for doing an excellent job of doing that.  But, I believe, we should also teach people what they should do “when HSUS comes a knockin’”, which in my opinion is exactly what Mr. Christensen did. He remained calm, PO’ed but calm, and is using the proper procedures for justice.  When people become intimidated by the “shock and awe, SWAT-like” tactics, many just immediately sign their animals over.  This basically gives the HSUS open access to the “stage” they use for propaganda film-making.  Does anyone here agree with me? Should we educate animal ag. producers what to do in the case a “raid” happens? Feelings David?  Or would we then become too much of a legal council for people?  I think the high profile status of this case is helping educate people to do, what I feel, is the right cause of action. I just feel this case is much more then just a chance for us local to this case to get our feathers ruffled over what has been happening locally, it truly educates people EVERYWHERE the correct action to take.  Thanks for allowing my long-winded post here. And thanks David for all you do!

Posted by billybob on 05/07 at 06:37 PM

I would like to comment about one more item we’ve been discussing here.  We are told not to view KELO, and not believe their reporting.  SCRC has been asking their supporters to only view KSFY for info. on this case.  Their seems to be, according to my own research, a direct tie between KSFY and SCRC.  I believe one of the people involved with SCRC are tied directly to KSFY.  I may be misguided, but investigate for yourself, or perhaps you want to set me straight Rosey?

Posted by billybob on 05/07 at 07:04 PM

I find it amazing that you people believe anything you read and just go vigilante on it. The truth about the mentally handicapped individual from Hurley is that his Social Worker took his dog to a groomer who in turn called the PD to complain about the condition of the dog and that PD took the dog to SCRC. No one took his dog out of his car! Rosey had the Humane Officer take the dog back to the man and talk to him about better ways to take care of his dog. The groomer did the right thing and the PD being concerned as well did the right thing and SCRC did the right thing and now hopefully the mentally handicapped man will be better able to take care of his best friend. The whole thing was probably upsetting for him and could have happened differently, but it didnt. Can’t change that! But the outcome is that the dog is where it should be, with its owner and best friend. Maybe as a community you could all help him out and keep an eye on him so they can stay happy and together.  You call yourselves “watchers”. Well, who in the hell is going to watch you, you are no better than the gossips on the streets. I feel sorry for your sheriff, looks like he is your next target. What did he do to tick you off? I suggest you get your facts straight yet again before you go all vigilante on that one.

Posted by Stormy on 05/07 at 10:40 PM

Rosey- .I mean stormy..sorry.  I think we already have vigilante law here already, but finally after so many years have an opportunity to change that.  I for one will leave the local LE out of my comments from here on.  But, since SCRC is directly involved, I still feel it is only right to be given the opportunity to discuss them regarding this case, and any past examples of possible injustices.

Posted by billybob on 05/09 at 05:41 PM

This will be my last post here except if personally attacked.  As both sides have said, we will let the courts decide.  I hope the decision makes the national media.

Posted by billybob on 05/10 at 03:53 PM

Sorry to disappoint you billybob but I am not Rosey. I am impressed that you said “past examples of possible injustices”, atleast your mind is open to more than just the “get em”’ mentallity. You are right when you say you have the right to discuss whatever is going on, but this site seems to be very one sided. That is not discussion, it is persecution. I, too, hope this case goes nation wide. Probably not for the same reason as you, but just the same…there are possible injustices here and it is not all one-sided. We will talk more after the trial.  Stormy

Posted by Stormy on 05/10 at 10:27 PM

Stormy- sorry I called you rosey. That is a HUGE HUGE HUGE insult to you, and I apologize.  As far as this discussion being one-sided, Rosey and others from SCRC are more then welcome to come here also.  Valorie did and you have, and Rosey you can come back and discuss here also, its an open forum.  I, for one, would like to know more about timothy the cat.  We can all respect you Rosey for taking care of this injured cat, for sure no one here was attacking you for caring for an animal in need, it is simply the cloudy information that appears suspect to us.  Set us straight if you will.  I would like to know, are all you folks from SCRC glad the HSUS was involved in this case?  We are here to talk about the HSUS, so are you still glad they were so heavily involved in this case?  They seem to be attempting to leave you here holding the bag, where is their accountability?  Yes Stormy, I said “possible injustices” because I haven’t had any myself with my farm animals.  But, wow, I sure have heard of lot second-handed.  I think we both will get our wish, this surely with be a nationally covered case.

Posted by billybob on 05/11 at 01:39 PM

All the state and local governments have elected officials that either support or through apathy, condone this misbehavior. Organizing sportsmen, horsemen, those in animal agriculture and dog breeders, to name a few, into a voting block that can identify, elect and remove judges (in some states), county commissioners, city representatives, DA’s, sheriffs, etc. That will get the job done. They are killing us at the local level.  Get organized, get others organized.  Demand changes that stop these people.
We have the voting power in many of these situations. Send them down the road.

Posted by Howdy Doody on 05/21 at 01:53 PM

Hmmm.. Good day to you Stormy, Val, and Rosie!  Guess you’re right, we’ll now here about it in court!  Good luck!.... Uncle Jessie-we may get our wish anyway…

Posted by billybob on 07/02 at 11:14 PM

Well, Billybob, long time no hear from. Did you find another cause to fight for a while or were you just waiting on this one? What wish are you and Uncle Jessie waiting for? My wish is that DC will never breed or abuse another dog…Hmmm—we win! Be talkin’ to ya boys.  Stormy

Posted by stormy on 07/03 at 12:41 PM

How’s that court date work out for ya’ll Rosie?

Posted by SB on 07/06 at 05:02 PM

I would be interested in these courses mentioned by Danielle in the first post.  Our Animal Control people are out of control.

Posted by Maggie on 07/06 at 05:53 PM

Just would like to share our law here in SD:
any dog raids of commercial kennels by an ACO (who must be sworn in by a judge every 3 yrs in SD-which Rosey wasn’t) must have a warrant, local law enforcement, and A STATE certified vet from SD! Not only was Rosey breaking the law but it was also illegal for HSUS to be there as they were none of the above nor from SD. This may be the straw to break the camels back!!
Scotlund Haisley could be doing time with Rosey. Considering they stole those dogs which valued -mmmmm….. I think I read once equaled around $120,000.00. Sounds like a felony to me!

Posted by Ellie on 07/06 at 07:21 PM

Ellie…you sound like a bitter breeder. What are you so afraid of? You have studied your law, as a breeder. What you dont know is the whole story. I am guessing you never will but for now you can rant and rave all you want about the law. Unless you were there to see the conditions those dogs tolerated, then you dont know the whole story. Take a deep breath, and let it go. You are only embarrassing yourself by ranting about things you know nothing about.

Posted by stormy on 07/06 at 10:42 PM

According to KELO, Christensen said he is done as a breeder - his reputation is shot (no thanks to HSUS).

He is said to be mulling his legal options at this point while working to confirm the whereabouts of his surviving dogs.

Posted by Dave on 07/06 at 11:26 PM

Stormy-
WERE YOU THERE?  You seem to “think” you know the whole story and the law….what you and most people forget is that these dogs are dogs-they got to dig to China and condition themselves for what they were bred to do which was hunt.  The SD law does say that a search warrant, SD licenced vet and police officer must be present is a law that was passed because of Rosey Quinn’s actions-this was passed in 2006 after she was “fired” from the SF Humane Society.  As far as embarrassing anyone-careful what you say-you might be the next one talking nonsense.

Posted by Living the Dogs Life on 07/06 at 11:38 PM

ME BITTER!?!?
Oh No not at all! I am just stating the facts. As I read all the above posts the only one looking bitter or embarrassing themselves are you and your buds. I am so glad you think you have won, KUDO’S! We will see who is celebrating down the road! That’s all for tonight, sleep tight Stormy.

Posted by Ellie on 07/06 at 11:52 PM

So Stormy, you are saying you seen Dan’s facilities firsthand?  If you did, at the very least you trespassed, and if you helped “rescue”(steal) even one dog you’re a thief.  You’re still calling this whole ordeal a success?  I hope if you were involved you will be held accountable.  It seems only jailtime will destroy your tremendous ego and arrogance.  Wasn’t SCRC only licensed in Minnehaha to care for up to 200 animals?  Let another thing I can’t believe they got away with.  And, I wouldn’t be so calm thinking you can hide behind a supossed non-profit either.  I can’t image how much this has cost Turner county, all citizens should be outraged..

Posted by billybob on 07/07 at 12:55 AM

Interesting how “Stormy” thinks by knowing the law and our rights makes us fearful! If I was fearful of you or Rosy I wouldn’t be here having this discussion. As I have said in earlier posts - education and helping correct problems with the facilities of any of Rosey’s raids could have been a better option for everyone involved, including the municipalities having to foot the bill! BUT “NO” let’s send the cavalry in and leave no prisoners. You really do entertain with your this post’s Stormy!

Posted by Ellie on 07/07 at 12:00 PM

You wondered what I wish for?  I wish all animal rights activists would take all their energy and all their money and dedicate themselves to causes that would help the human condition.  Probably the most frustrating thing to me is to see all the causes that need help desperately to stay afloat to help people and all this money goes to animal rights activists to push their agenda.  Believe me I love animals but there is no way I would put their welfare on the same level as that of a human.

Posted by Uncle Jessie on 07/07 at 12:49 PM

Stormy- Let’s be completely fair to you.  Why don’t you TELL us the whole story?  Tell us every detail, and the names of everyone involved.  I’m sure they all feel it was a success like you, and will appreciate the recognition.  We want every detail so we can understand the whole story.  Most of us here wish the HSUS, Rosey, and others involved locally will incur large civil penalties and time behind bars.  I feel personally they will, so in the end…we win!  We’ll be waiting for your detailed description of the whole story….

Posted by billybob on 07/07 at 03:19 PM

I can see where you would think this is entertaining. You people turn everything around so it works for you. I did not say that you are fearful because you know some law. Look back a few comments, it’s there. What makes you think Rosey doesn’t vaccinate?  Everyone of those dogs are up to date on vaccinations and wormer. Every animal that enters SCRC is vaccinated and wormed. It is documented as is the spread sheet for each and every one of DC’s dogs. At DC’s house that day, there were 2 SD vets and one volunteer vet from out of state, the sheriff and he served the warrant. He says he doesn’t know where his dogs are…he is selling them thru SCRC, he set the amount and the adopter’s get him the money and they return a reciept to Rosey. As far as his reputation, it wasn’t steller long before we showed up. Look it up, this is not his first go around. As far as the whole story…you would just turn it all around anyway, and you can stop looking for a trial, the charges were dropped on the wording on a warrant, It is over, he could have had his dogs back in May and never made one move to get them, he came up and picked out the few that had problems and they were not full of worms! He has said he doesnt want them back, or does he, or doesn’t he, or does he.  He has no problem taking the money for them, while SCRC vets them and finds them homes.  Oh and SCRC has not gone over it’s limit and if they do, they just need to notify the county. What does dogs digging to China have to do with anything? Most dogs dig when they are bored. You are right, they were born to hunt-not live in a shit-hole and produce litter after litter so someone can make money. Most were not ready to hunt, most of them are scared of people from lack of socialization. Many of them have found homes with families that give them individual love and care and they feel that every day now. This case is over and my entertaining you is over.

Posted by Stormy on 07/07 at 09:45 PM

Stormy Is that a promise?

Posted by Uncle Jessie on 07/08 at 06:57 PM

OH - But “Stormy” you do such a good job of entertaining us! I really hate to see you go wink
Check this link out:

http://dakotawarcollege.com/archives/13405
Seems like SD is sick of you and yours playing cops and robbers.
AND really do you always have such a fowl mouth or is that just for us too?

Posted by Ellie on 07/08 at 09:12 PM

Stormy-
If every dog is vaccinated from SCR then why did a dog that bit a service worker not have a rabies shot-the dog was 7 years old?  The sheriff WAS NOT there- a deputy sheriff was.  The volunteer vet was a newly grad that works with the HSUS.  Get his dogs back-hell SCR was adopting them out as soon as Jan of this year per the court records from Kelo!  Plus parvo was rampet at Rosey’s facility any breeder would not bring that back to their facility.  DC “picked” out the dogs he wanted back…Rosey that day said that was all the dogs that were left!  The one “puppy’ with the cherry eye-well if any vet said it was OK, I would question how they treat that problem.  As far as selling dogs and puppies-do you know what the fee is?  If you don’t I will tell you that with sales tax it is $106.00 that is far less than the $ 408.00 Rosey is charging for deceased puppies that were in her charge for 50 days-or were they-probably not as most of the dogs and pups were in foster care and she still feels she should be paid for her stealing these dogs.  Dogs scared-again Stormy were you there-almost all of those dogs leash led and the few that didn’t were because the “rescue” people chased the crap out of them.  The foster people have said over and over-again per Kelo etc that these were great dogs-can change happen that quickly and if so were the dogs that bad off.  If your entertaining is over so be it, but you do not know what the hell your talking about- I am guessing that you are either Rosey or one of her hired hands-DOG CATCHERS so you should really “Get a life” and from now on make sure that what you say is true.  Rosey was invited to Pierre for meeting with the ag groups but chicken shit that she was she didn’t show, nor did she to the meeting in Iowa that she said she wanted to tell her side of the story.  I am sick of the crap that you and your group present to the general public-you make ALL ACO and animal rescues look bad with your ways.  Good luck persuading any normal people.

Posted by Living the dogs life on 07/08 at 11:04 PM

My, my, my. Seems to be a few very angry, bitter people.
Stormy - Um, Dan picked out the few dogs he got back?  Really?  From news reports, Dan had to go pick them up at the Rescue. No mention of him ever chosing which ones he got.
In all my conversations with Dan, not once did he ever mention getting to chose those few.
Yes, he is selling what dogs can be located, but at give away prices.
Any breeder with one whit of sense would also refuse to take the dogs back.  No idea of what they have been exposed to or the treatment they have had. Then there is the problem of several males being housed with females at the same time.  No way to tell who sired which litter.
Unsocialized dogs?  Really? Hmmm, so you carry out an unsocialized dog and it just lays there in the person’s arms?  So unsocialized that they were wearing collars and wagging tails, leading on leashes? That’s real unsocialized isn’t it?
Rosey’s statement, in a post on another site, that ALL the females were pregnant.  Really?  Gee, then HSUS must have gotten their films mixed up with some of their stock footage as I saw many UNbred females in their pictures.
Yep, conditions can be made to look “deplorable” after the HSUS set crew got done staging the area.
Do you know that Dan was threatened if he proceeded with his speaking engagement in Iowa?
Seems someone is becoming very afraid and trying to use typical HSUS tactics of bullying and threatening.
From what I know, have read, pictures viewed, talking to people with direct knowledge, seems there’s a truthin’ problem.
And it ain’t Dan and his allies.

Posted by Tin Lizzie on 07/09 at 12:30 AM

Ok Stormy.  If you don’t want to tell us the “whole story” you three kept referring to, how about dismissing our statements with some documented facts?  Not all of us here know Mr. Christensen, so tell us all what you know.  I don’t know of his previous reputation, but I know what Rosey’s was.  And I also know that in having the LE in Turner co. disliking you doesn’t mean your evil, it might just mean he stood up for his rights previously.  You think this is over? I think you’re wrong, and I think many of you should not be so confident thinking you can hide behind a non-profit or public office.  So you said again the conditions at Mr. Christensen’s farm were bad?  Are you going to continue to make libelous statements like that? Its already been proven that you’re wrong.  Or maybe tell us the evidence and how you obtained it?  You keep poking us that we’re scared of something, but what are you scared of? Come on, please, tell us the whole story! We’re waiting!  You’re not so busy searching for hunting dogs that you can’t a minute to tell us, are you?  If Mr. Christensen picked up specific animals that were injured, then explain the injuries. They were puppies never in his care, right?  Don’t you all feel foolish now, letting the HSUS use you for propaganda, and all of you to get sued to hell and back?  Stormy, are you glad the HSUS was so heavily involved with this case? What are you’re views of the HSUS? Would you ever work for them? Don’t be scared, you can tell us….

Posted by billybob on 07/09 at 07:26 PM

It’s interesting that Stormy would think these are ‘one sided’ comments. I suppose that to the extent that most of the people here are concerned about their rights, both civil and personal property, that’s true. At least the one sidedness is on the side of the law and constitution as written.

If you want to see one sided commentary, just go to any AR site and read the comments there. They will one sidedly goad each other into all kinds of vigilantism in the name of liberating the animals. The law be damned; just get those poor animals away from those abusive owners. To them the term ‘animal owner’ is synonymous with the term ‘animal abuser’, and they see no particular reason to wait until the definitions can be changed in law.

Sadly, I’d say they aren’t far from accomplishing that.

So far as the legal community goes, in these matters - it’s all pretty much an honor system, isn’t it? You need a warrant or a court order to confiscate property and you ask a judge for it. He expects some sort of standards before he signs such an order, but you have to remember - the judge is an expert in law, not animal husbandry. And animal abuse is a high profile issue; if there are animals out there being abused, what judge wouldn’t sign a warrant or order to put a stop to it? How well trained are shelter personal or sheriff’s deputies in terms of animal husbandry and management? Most of them were trained with materials - high priced materials, bought by the taxpayer - produced by H$U$. I rest my case.

But I’m really writing out of curiosity. I want to know what ” ... Half of the dogs removed were mixes, and over bred. Is that fair to the pet?” means. Is that some sort of technical breeder’s term Val? What, exactly is an ‘over bred mix’ ..?

Actually, I suspect it is an AR term straight out of the animal rights propaganda mills; any dog which is bred at all is over bred in any sense of the word you can conceive (NPI) of. If it’s not the way I’d use the term, well, I’m so old I think that the breeders, not the AC officers or even the vets (whose expertise is supposed to be medicine, not husbandry) are the ones with the most knowledge. And it’s systematically the breeders who are targeted, so I’d guess H$U$ agrees with me. I mean, when was the last time you heard of someone with a couple of sterile pets hauled up for animal abuse? I’m not saying it never happens, and I’d even say that it’s probably valid on the very rare occasion when it does, but the targets are consistently and clearly older, well established breeders. Once they are out of the way and discredited, there will be no one to challenge the AR ideas of animal husbandry which are based on sentimentality not expertise, often impractical and occasionally outright dangerous.

I’ll go back to my corner, but if you are a fence sitter reading this, understand that those of us who love animals and believe that we should continue to have the right to own them, breed them and even occasionally eat them are fighting a losing battle. If you think that even any small portion of the relationship humans have with animals should be protected, you need to pitch in and fight for our - your - continued right to own and breed pets, eat cheese and eggs and maybe even meat, wear wool and silk and leather. From the point of view of H$U$ and its satellite organizations, those are all the same, basically. Any human contact with any kind of animal is abusive to the animal in their eyes. They have a clear understanding that they don’t even necessarily have to outlaw these things to be successful, all they have to do is continue (they already have a great start) to regulate them out of existence.

Blessed be.

Posted by Pica on 07/09 at 08:07 PM

Stormy- LOL You’re complaining about having to provide vet care? You try to CHARGE him around $400,000, and now complain about vet care? That takes balls.  Do car thieves complain when the car owner doesn’t give them a full tank, oil change, and car wash? You’ve gotten away with this for so long you don’t see the irony.  Tin Lizzie- I think Mr. Christensen knows who threatened him, he was already on his toes by then….

Posted by billybob on 07/09 at 08:22 PM

This was copied from the HSUS website from Testimonials from Friends in the Field
Rosey Quinn, executive director of Second Chance Rescue, who called in The HSUS to assist with the rescue of more than 170 dogs from a South Dakota puppy mill
“All seems to be going well here, but we all miss you guys so much and it was such a pleasure working with you. You all made a big hit here—we couldn’t have done it without you. Watch the mail, I am sending some CDs to you. One is a special picture montage of the day of our rescue made just for you guys. Thanks again.”
This would make the list of 10 things Rosey’s attorney wishes she had never said right behind “The search was not illegal”  and “the cat was glued to the highway”.
PS if you want to find the HSUS website with a Yahoo search you’re going to have to go down on the list of most viewed Activistcash is first telling the real story behind the HSUS and you will even have to go past the HSUS Chinese restaurant located in Atlanta.  Yes they are even more popular the the HSUS now.

Posted by Uncle Jessie on 07/10 at 10:08 AM

Add to that top 10 list the case of the mentally challenged man.  Any last flicker of compassion I had for her was then extinguished.  I know who he is.  I also know he would be very capable and willing to sit in a witness stand, and he’s a no BS type of guy.  That is the first great thing that happened because of our comments, she was embarrassed and ashamed (maybe), and finally did the right thing, someone please update me as to the status of his dog, I’m praying it didn’t contract parvo.  If indeed the dog was returned to him prior to our comments, let me know.

Posted by billybob on 07/11 at 04:36 AM

Some of Dan’s dogs showed up in an “animal underground railroad” operation to move them through Montana and on into Canada (to Calgary to be specific). I wonder how many of the 28 dogs that supposedly died actually went out the back door and were sold by the “rescue” agency.

Funny how a raid on a hunting dog kennel took place right before hunting season, too (when such dogs are most salable), and how HSUS lost interest the moment it was clear that the dogs would not be meekly handed over for immediate sale.

Posted by The Scarlet Pimpernel on 07/15 at 02:46 PM

The Scarlet Pimpernel IF there are documents that can verify this this would blow Rosey apart.  is there a paper trail?  would be great in court. the local tv station would be interested if you can provide proof.

Posted by Uncle Jessie on 07/16 at 12:05 AM

A article was in the Yankton P & D about Dan Christensen on July 26, 2010 and Rosey Quinn stated in that news print that with all the puppies born, it was to complicated to keep track of how many dogs there were.  She later goes on to say “They flourished here after all the medical things we did for them.”  Second Chance has filed to sue Christensen for $415,000, which would cover the cost of the dogs care when they were in the facilities possession.  Amazing that she can ask for that kind of money when most of the dogs were in foster care or an animal underground railroad.  Scarlet Pimpernel if you have info now is the time to turn it over-I am sure the writer from the P & D could do a story on this!  Stormy long time no hear…could you have finally seen the light?

Posted by living a dogs life on 07/27 at 02:50 PM

http://dakotawarcollege.com/archives/13632#comment-84164

This link is to an article on a “Terrorist Act” to mink breeders. Sounds eerily familiar!

Posted by Ellie on 07/28 at 05:08 PM

South Dakota Farmers and Ranchers were denied access to HSUS meetings.  Check out link for the story.

http://www.feedstuffs.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=F4D1A9DFCD974EAD8CD5205E15C1CB

Posted by Kelly on 08/20 at 12:40 PM

@Chris -

The problem with the ‘in your face vegan thing’ is that the vegan thing is what they are about - and that means eliminating animals from our lives.

It confuses the issue considerably when animals *are* in need of care, but these are NOT the people who should be dealing with that.

We have allowed ourselves to be put in the position where people who want to eliminate animals from our lives are making the rules for care and the laws. Thís is tantamount to letting Flat Earthers design geography courses!

Posted by Hawthorne on 08/20 at 05:08 PM

Kelly,
Can’t get the article to come up.  Would sure like to read it and more importantly it needs to be spread around for all to read.

Posted by Uncle Jesse on 08/30 at 10:30 AM

Hi Uncle Jesse - Sure try this link:  http://www.agunited.org/page.cfm/link/RuralRamblings/action/alias/post/HSUS_is_There_Something_to_Hide

If you still can not get it to come up just go to:  http://www.agunited.org then it should be on the home page on the right side of the screen under rural ramblings.

Posted by Kelly on 08/30 at 11:13 AM

Thanks—is there any way we can get this out to mainstream America?  We who frequent this site know what the HSUS really is. we have to teach mainstream America including Washington, DC.

HSUS has pulled the wool over their eyes far too long to the point where it is easier to believe what HSUS says about themselves than to question it. Most people don’t like to admit publicly when they have been duped and made a fool of.

Posted by Uncle Jessie on 08/30 at 03:08 PM

It’s been a year and still no answers.  No charges for perjury against Rosey.  In fact I hear she’s been up to Huron harassing horse owners something the animal industry board told her she could not do.  So you see she doesn’t listen to the law no matter who’s talking.

Posted by Uncle Jessie on 09/02 at 11:23 AM

Dear Dog Lover— Did you see these “deplorable conditions” you claim were present at Mr. Christensen’s facilities firsthand?  If you did I sure hope your name is listed on his lawsuit, under criminal trespass.  If you were not present, then you are simply making libelous statements in regard to Mr. Christensen and his facilities.  So I guess you pick which you will like to be charged with.  Mr. Christensen’s reputation has been ruined because of this illegal search and seizure, and by the propaganda machines that guaranteed this case would be in the nations periphery forever.  He has suffered severe physical and emotional scars, as well as other members of his family, and hopefully a few dollars in his pockets can help him realize this is still a nation of good people and justice, albeit slow justice.  What do you stand to gain by continuing to write these libelous statements about Mr. Christensen?  Absolute power has no place in American society, and will NEVER be allowed to continue forever, please remember that.  Now we will see how the checks and balances come into play during this case.

Posted by billybob on 09/09 at 06:51 PM

The HSUS has brought puppy mill laws in 24 states.  The law says you have to build a $250,000 Kennel to keep breeding dogs.  That will close everyone down.

Posted by skippy on 09/09 at 10:43 PM

This may not be mainstream America, but there are a lot of people reading about Dan C’s travails and the recent federal suit that was filed on his behalf and discussing it, passing it along. Take a look at http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/pet-law/ to get an idea of what is going on across America and efforts to stop HSUS and other AR groups. It is a mail list and there is a files section as well, with some pretty interesting stuff posted.

There is not an animal on this earth that is safe from these AR’s. There is even a movement to make predators into vegetarians, see http://www.hedweb.com/abolitionist-project/reprogramming-predators.html entitled Blueprint for a Cruelty-Free World:  Reprogramming Predators. It would be funny if they were not so serious about it.

Anyhow, check out pet-law at the very least, and think about joining it. Warnings are only fair here, pet-law can be a very high traffic list. One recent day, there were 208 messages posted. That was for the day, not the week or the month. This month, and we are only in the tenth day, 880 messages have already been posted—take a look at the monthly message totals on the home page. If you look, you can find more places like these around the web.

Posted by Steve on 09/10 at 04:44 PM

I work with a rescue shelter (no-kill) but no one I work with has the ideology of the HSUS/PETA.

We never want to see constitutional rights taken away. An animal in our book should be loved, cared for and properly treated. But when the humanizing of an animal comes before a person’s right to own them, that is simply STUPID!

Posted by jon white on 09/14 at 12:48 AM

HSUS is even penetrating our religion! Ma href=“http://magissues.farmprogress.com/DFM/DK09Sep10/dfm008.pdf”>Check out this link. Very disturbing!</a>

The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America — one of the largest Christian denominations in the Dakotas — has been “infiltrated by a radical animal rights and environmental agenda,” said Sarah Wilson at a hearing in August in Gackle, N.D., on the ELCA’s draft of a social statement on genetics.  Wilson farms near Jamestown, is an ELCA member, a North Dakota Farm Bureau staff member and an advocate for agriculture who publishes a blog called “A Farmer On A Mission.” Wilson said that while studying the ELCA’s draft statement on genetics she discovered links between the national church organization and the Humane Society of the United States, the Humane Farming Association, Sierra Club and Eco-Justice. Many in agriculture consider these groups to be anti-farming. “Every day I go to battle against [their] agenda to defend my ability to farm,” Wilson said. “And now [they] ... have infiltrated my church …” The Rev. Roger Willard, an ELCA staff member, denies any link. “It’s the first time anyone has raised that concern, and we’ve had hundreds of people look at what we’ve written,” he says.

 

Posted by Ellie on 09/16 at 04:13 PM

MEANWHILE, during this daring door-kicking animal rescue….THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN DIED OF STARVATION. Hundreds will have died in the time it takes to read this. Keep that in mind, animal rights terrorists, next time that warm fuzzy feeling of rescuing someone’s pet creeps inside you.
Your wasted effort to save one animal resulted in the deaths of actual humans and perpetuated human suffering.

Veganism CAUSES global warming. Eat less plants, we’ll have less CO2. Someday the greenies will learn to actually DO SOMETHING to help the planet besides protesting and making normal people think they’re flipping crazy!

Posted by Robert M on 10/12 at 04:17 PM

We are volunteers with a very good rescue.  We overnight and transport on occasion.  Unfortunately we live in a subdivision that has a homeowner’s association and these are getting to be a scandal in NC.  One of the board is a sheriff’s deputy who has never set foot in the house here.  She has twice sent out animal control (who I am told works hand in hand with HSUS) and most recently the ACO threatened me until I let him in the house.  He came in all of 4 feet into the front entry hall and saw my dog and a few of the cats.  Animal control has seen all our records and knows everyone is UTD on shots and spayed and neutered.  I drove up to get a copy of his report that afternoon.  He claims there was a smell and that there were feces all over the floor throughout the entire house.  I had just washed the floors and he never came through the house.  I got in his face and his boss’s face.  He continued to lie about what he had seen.  He did admit the animals were in good shape.  The head of AC said she had to see all the animals and would send another officer back that evening.  We let him in, walked him to the back room of the house, where we had all of the cats for his inspection.  He said everything was fine and left—he also showed up a half hour early.  So the following Monday we get a call from someone in City Hall.  Shs is some sort of planning/zoning official and said AC had forwarded complaints to her because there was NOTHING they could do but she wanted to come out the next day and inspect around the OUTSIDE of the house for a smell.  I told her she could come right now but she was coming in the AM.  I called later and left a voice mail requesting copies of the reports and her boss’s name and phone number.  She called back and started screaming about “You want to play hard ball with me?” and so on.  VERY inappropriate.  I spoke to the city manager, county person, mayor, and her boss.  I also went in to speak to the big guy in person and was told everything was over and that there was no problem.  I told him I wanted it in writing.  The county also told me they were done and we were fine.  I got the letter and lo and behold there were the lying reports and I then called the county and raised a big fuss about there being selective info sent.  Oh, and Miss Hardball canceled her inspection when she said she wanted to come in and inspect.  I told her she had asked to see the outside and she was not coming in which also caused her to blow another gasket.  She did drive by and supposedly came out and walked around but I only saw her drive by.  There is no smell outside and floors and litter boxes are cleaned frequently.  There is the errant accident which is why we have laminate instead of carpeting.  The city and county basically admitted this is all coming from the HOA which runs the sub like a gulag and everyone must conform.  Miss Deputy is going to find her sorry behind in trouble.  Once the election is over, I am speaking to her boss (hope it’s a new one) about an abuse of power on her part.  I am not the only one in the sub hot with this woman and I have spoken to several lawyers.  I suspect HSUS is working hand in hand with AC but cannot prove it.  We are disabled seniors and we do keep the place up but one of the committee women has twice commented to me that she does not know why an old woman buys a house she can’t keep up.  This is discriminatory and they have even sent a board member right up to a window to take photos.  This is trespassing and they deny it but I saw it and am keeping a record.  We pay a very conscientious lawn guy, are vigilant about keeping the inside chores up, and I just think this is about a few jerks who think they are running the show wanting to control what goes on in the house.  They know I will sue and the legislature is currently working on HOA legislation as this is the number one complaint.  If it is true that HSUS is involved, I would not be one bit surprised.  Frankly, I don’t think the ACO or his boss that I’ve had run-ins with (there are a few decent officers in the county) are clever enough to come up with this on their own. Oh, and the head of Animal Control made the comment to me that once animals get old and start having accidents, they should be put down.  What a piece of work she is.  By that logic, I should have had my mom, who had Alzheimer’s and was in a nursing home, put to sleep.  And I guess if my dog, who is young, gets a stomach ache and has an accident, then she should be put down too.  These people are dangerous.  Sorry this is long but I needed to vent.

Posted by only me on 10/20 at 04:52 PM

If you shelter animals - do not open your house, kennel etc. to anyone WITHOUT a Search Warrant. They have no legal right in your house no matter what kind of badges they have.

Posted by Mary Verbeck Pomeroy on 10/21 at 01:46 PM

Article in the Argus Leader (also on all 3 local tv stations KELO - KSFY - KDLT)

Animal shelter likely to close, founder says -Financial woes imperil Second Chance Rescue

The founder of Second Chance Rescue near Sioux Falls said Monday that the animal shelter is on the verge of closing and it is unlikely that she will be able to keep it open.

Rosie Quinn, founder and executive director, said the shelter faces severe financial trouble.

“It’s going to take a miracle. Hopefully, there’s one out there,” said Quinn, who founded the shelter four miles west of Sioux Falls in 2006.

[Ed.: View the full article here: ]http://www.argusleader.com/article/20101109/NEWS/11090327/Animal-shelter-likely-to-close-founder-says]

Posted by ellie on 11/09 at 03:43 PM

Seems to me that the term ‘puppy mill’ means something different to everyone who uses it.

What we need to remember is that to HSUS, anyone who breeds even one litter is a ‘puppy mill’.

Posted by Lynn on 11/10 at 12:51 AM

Rosey sounds like a hoarder to me. Poor animals.

Posted by Jeff on 11/11 at 02:39 PM

Here, for all to see, are some official definitions from the “AR Whackadoo Lexicon of Big Words and Stuff”:

Animal Abuser: See “Hoarder”.

Factory Farm: Any agricultural operation using one or more of any of the following animals as “livestock”: horses, sheep, cows, llamas, alpacas, pigs, goats, chickens, ducks, geese, turkeys, or any other animal commonly known as “domestic”, excluding dogs and cats (see “Kitten/Puppy Mill”).

Hoarder: Any individual using one or more animals of any kind as a “pet”.

Kitten/Puppy Mill: Any individual or facility using one or more unaltered female cats or dogs for any purpose.

Pet/Livestock: A sad, miserable, mistreated, neglected, viciously abused animal slave which would rather be dead than living in the horrible conditions to which it is subjected by evil hoarders, factory farmers, and kitten/puppy millers.

I hope this clears things up for everyone.

Posted by BADKarma on 11/11 at 02:48 PM

I purchased my dog from Dan about 1 1/2 ago.  I’d do it again… purchase another dog from Dan. (But not yet, this little guy is full of energy and is a handful.)
Although “Brody” was a little shakey from the flight, he quickly adjusted to his new family.  It was obvious that he was well cared for before we bought him. 
I hope the best for Dan and hope and pray the government will get out our business and return to being “of the people and for the people.”

Posted by Jodi on 11/17 at 12:29 AM

http://www.ksfy.com/Global/story.asp?S=13711646

Big Surprise - Rosie is staying in business! Ha what a scam!
So maybe Dan C. will get back what she stole from him! KEEP those donations rolling in Folks. Got to have enough to cover that lawsuit!

Posted by Ellie on 12/21 at 12:41 PM

Rosey is such a professional.  Read her comment.

http://www.argusleader.com/comments/article/20101229/VOICES09/12290318/Letters-Support-Second-Chance

Posted by Barb on 12/29 at 05:49 PM

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